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Humans evolve throuuugh their good and bad deeds, and the ability to love , NOT through skin colour or race. How IGNORANT.

I find it very disillusioning to think that the Steiner education taught racism.Not very spiritual.

Close all schools against which complaints have been made then make enquiries? I am associated with a Steiner school and have no particular philosophy or dogma but can see the wonderful outcomes in the children. That stuff about Steiner's racism and other drivel is not taught. What's the rate of bullying complaints in non-Steiner schools?

Our child was bullied at a North Carolina Waldorf school. Thank you for your bravery.

Close the schools

holy shit, she is in full denial mode

Ridiculous.Utter nonsense.

Wow I love how these two morons pounce on. Her he spoke no problem no one interiores him but when it came for her to talk these two wouldn't let her get a whole sentence out. 🙄

Also happening in US Waldorf schools, this is the "curriculum" or actually, it meets the criteria for a cult. Very disturbing that the followers are like sheep and the parents are led to believe Steiner schools are harmless, and they are so far from it. People in the communities are not putting up with their antics any longer, the veil has been pulled back and we can see clearly what is going on and what is going on is not good.

This is happening in the US Waldorf schools also, it certainly seems to be the theme of the lack of supervision and intimidation of anyone, teacher, or otherwise (even community members who witness this) to bully them also. It is a very sick mess of an education with a high price tag and children who are the sad victims of parents who did not do their research before being seduced by the thin veneer that these schools are harmless, they are not.

I lived on a steiner community and I now believe is a cult. I grew up with all my parents’ friends believing in Steiner philosophy and I think it’s indoctrination. When are the child abuse and paedophilia cases going to come out? About time people started to speak out about this. Just because it’s fashionable doesn’t make it good. m.facebook.com/groups/383865678871958?ref=share

The Waldorf Schools are a cult, look at the indicia of a cult and it meets them all. Worse than Scientology the kids are brainwashed and do not even know it, parents are lulled into trusting them and then when it is too late, and the child is damaged, realize they have made a grave mistake in choosing this as the school for their child. In the US the bullying issue is huge, as well as racism, and occult practices that are kept under the table from the local authorities and local city governments. #waldorfschools #waldorfschoolofdupage

She is blind and wrong,antrophosophy is belive sistem that this school.a based on.

Here in Sweden there is one Waldorf school where they allow bullying, My daughter went there for three years. Then she changed to another Waldorf school where bullying is not tolerated and they work against it effectively. There is NO doubt in My mind that SOME Waldorf school have serious issues, depending on who works there. There are some strange elements that teachers either pick up or not.

That is not at all what it says. Race does not equate to lesser evolution. That is absurd, ignorant and gross misrepresentation of the reality of what was taught by Steiner and this is very poor journalism.

biased

I have no doubt that this issue not only happens in schools but public transport, work, out in the town, etc. Affects every individual and of course women can be bullies, just like men but that is besides the point. Gender, ethnicity, etc has nothing to do with bullying.

the waldorf preschool my son attended had an open anti-intervention policy about kids fighting, and discouraged social guidance when children appeared anxious or at a loss. Though they said they also had an anti bullying policy a friend's daughter was bitten several times by another child without intervention at the point she shared that with me.

check waldorfwatch.com before going to a waldorf or steiner school or inspired school. in a waldorf nursery school my son was the bully including pushing and teachers totally waved it off.

check waldorfwatch.com before going to a waldorf or steiner school or inspired school

personally I don't think my kids need to be over exposed to the very "Christian" spiritual angle of "Normal" schools. My daughter goes to a "Non-religious" school, somehow the Christmas play was still very much based on the Nativity ! my daughter can loves stories like Noah's Ark... dont get me wrong, nice story, as a wiccan I dis agree with the heavy christian undertones with it - I do not agree with racism, I think we are all Human, who cares what colour we are, I do not agree with bulling, and would be the first to file for legal proceedings if my daughter was bullied... but the basic philosophy of a more spiritual school sounds like a great idea. how dare the "Main stream" take issue with me (an many others) wishing to have our kids learn a more spiritual way of life. Especially when their kids are singing "Seek ye first the kingdom of god" and learning about the good Samaritan. and probably being dragged to church every Sunday. You have YOUR faith, let others have theirs !

What I find fascinating when watching different debates on waldorf schools that ask about the Rudolf Steiner background in regard to racism and the antrophosophical views in today's schools is that no kids/parents of colour who choose/chose this type of school are questioned about this. If there was a problem about racism wouldn't they know best?! Also, while I find it important to point out that Steiner's views on race are deplorable (though they were probably pretty normal in his time, not excusing them, just putting them in context) and he was not perfect, no paragon of virtue, no prophet or god... sorry, digressing. Anyway, he had many faults, that doesn't mean that everything he said was wrong and should not be applied today. Besides the Waldorf curriculum today is a completly different one as compared to in its beginnings or in Steiner's lifetime. Just because they still carry his name does not mean that these schools are an embodiment of his anthroposophical theories. They are schools, not churches. For Christ's sake!

Racism and Bullying ,wondering how stare schools fair regarding this!! Wondering if the history of state schools has LESSONS to be learned on this subject!!! MAYBE diversity training, and language usage will help solve the problem!!! Thinking steiner schools have more of a HOLD of education than its counter parts. Focusing on the person is at the core of Steiner education. BBC News night needs to do Full Programme on the subject in state run schools I think !!! WILL the over managed BBC do it in a unbiased way!!!! Makeup your own mind. History is a good point of reference I think.

Oh...I forgot to add in my previous post. Steiner education is about 'spiriyual' matters. 'Spirituality' comes in two forms, broadly speaking...good and bad. Steiner was a dark agent...and so it goes on.

Steiner was a very, very dark agent...so what does that tell you. It has all been carefully hidden from people though. The Brit state appears to be funding steiner 'schools' now...again...what does that tell you? The government CLEARLY do NOT have the well being of their people uppermost in their minds. Steiner schools are a part of a dark agenda.

That's great!

Steiner did not teach that wee reincarnate in every race and that some are superior .He said that we are all evolving from life to life and growing OUT of belonging to any race but becoming UNIVERSALLY HUMAN The Nazis agreed so little with Steiner that they tried to kill him and shut all hte german schools.There are many such schools world wide

In Australia you don't see aboriginal children or it's very very rare. I don't believe its good to bring children up in a bubble or a cult.. Better to be exposed to all people rich and poor.

Btw,your favourite Prince Charles is big on Steiner and Biodynamic farming,did you know that?And the Queen for example uses Anthroposophical Hauschka cosmetics and medicine...

The Steiner movement will die a death, ironically, due to his own words. The cognitive dissonance of his followers means that they justify his abhorrent references to race, of which there are a few, with a tepid argument that these were merely running with the trends of the time. In truth, they are furiously racist statements, and there is no getting away from their content! The people of his time who were fervently opposed to his type of superiority complex were not of the dominant ideology, and that's as far as it goes. The substance of his words still stand. Every Steiner institution (of which I've visited at least 11 in the UK and have known hundreds world wide who have attended them) has a picture of him somewhere in its midst, yet many may claim that they do not adhere to all his philosophies. Do they really expect us to believe that they are ALL merely cherry picking his ideas? I saw no disclaimer anywhere in all my experience; I had to find out about his racism by self study as a co-worker at one of the camphill communities. Now, had I been an African co-worker (of which there are many), or had I Native American descent, I would have been heart broken to think that, possibly, the white leadership at my community may have been harbouring these insidious racist views, that deep down they felt sorry for me trying to progress my own karma in the hope of one day becoming like them. The same reaction may well have occurred; I was appalled and disheartened and quietly left, afraid to speak out while already embedded into the community, afraid I may be reproached or worked on to be convinced otherwise, despite what I had learned for myself and therefore already knew to be true. Steiner was a racist, and any struggle I found there would be viewed, with cold detachment, as my own karma to face. The flipside of this would have been that they were completely ignorant of it themselves, which may have felt even worse, because as a co-worker, you are likely thousands of miles from home and technically in the care of their leadership! The last thing you want then is advice from someone so blind to themselves. They may well have denied that their approach to anthroposophy contained any of what I read in The Occult Meaning of Blood, for instance, and yet I was still able to access it within their own library. My skin crawls when I remember how I felt reading that pamphlet! I was terrified, I felt like I had uncovered a very dark secret. In other work, Steiner credits Blavasky for the foundation of his spiritual cosmology, another proponent of racial hierarchy through karmic evolution. Its time this stuff was brought to light with honesty and integrity, rather than dancing around it because of what I conclude as an unconscious racism harboured by his following. This is the psychic shadow of the Steiner cult being seen for what it is in plain sight, due to the actual evolution of consciousness through the age of Humanistic ideas that oppose anti-intellectualism.

This program smacks of all the elements of yellow dog journalism. It seems the BBC was hard up for content and the useless is therefore permissible. I have researched Waldorf education and read about 40 books of Steiner's works call Spiritual Science or Anthroposophy, meaning wisdom of humans. I attended a study group on the matter of one of Steiner's eight book on reincarnation and have found nothing but logically organized wisdom based on Steiner's research. I must say that after studying only one book of Steiner's on reincarnation, I realized that no one nor anything I had ever read on the subject in any way took me so deep and to such clarity as his writings. Most individuals are completely confused and that could be the basis of some of the blather the BBC is spouting regarding children and reincarnation. According to Steiner, humans do not begin living their reincarnation until about 12 years old and the process ends in about 70 years. In my life I studied for a masters in engineering, and must say Steiner's work requires much more in the way of intellectual capacity than any of my engineering courses. The rigorousness of his material leaves one with a sense of the profound. If sound bytes define the way you process life Steiner is not your cup of tea and if you peruse Steiner and make judgements you are probably going to be wrong. Do the work and get the knowledge. BBC, you really, really need to start acting as professionals and not yellow dog journalists.

Mr quarrel rid the fire of negative personal emotions to burn the ideal goals. He will run away as first as he could if someone ask his responsibility.

This show remind me how media attack EU. So many people don't bother to think anymore. They attack Steiner education because they do not want to see people become free from manipulations. All innovative thinkers demands to change our ways of thinking to understand them. I do not want to be a mob to kill the innocent one.

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Steiner 'schools' are a load of bollocks; I know, from personal experience.

Steiner was always banging on about the inclusion of all races and all things and yet his schools are exclusively for the well heeled middle class and foster an elitist attitude in the young people thy churn out. Whatever Steiner's intention might have been, what he instituted was an unctuous form of spiritual facism. To call his followers a bunch of self congratulatory, ego inflated, narcissistic onanists would of course be going too far and I would never think of such a thing...

"8 out of 25 Steiner Schools had serious cases of bullying by staff"

Why call it a Steiner School if the school is not following Steiner's philosophy? BBC Q at 3:20 "How much Rudolf is there in the Steiner (Waldorf) School?" According to the lady responding: none. Then why is it called a Steiner School? Very peculiar.

Ridículo, pensarem desta forma, que mostram um profundo desconhecimento da Pedagogia Waldorf e de Antroposofia. Eu sou professora waldorf e na nossa escola regemos-nos pela formação de SERES livres... onde a raça, credo, religião ou filosofia de vida só os faz seres únicos.... Não faz sentido nehum!

Nobody believes that bullies should be allowed to go unchecked in a Steiner Waldorf school. Some of Steiner's better ideas allow one to ask the question about whether the experience of being bullied might in some senses make one stronger. I was bullied when my family moved around when I was young and it definitely made me stronger. My point is that I would be willing to bet any teacher that made comments about how bullying allows students to work out impulses that are part of their destiny (or karma) were making such comments to help students heal and not to excuse, perpetuate, apologize for, or cover up bullying. Its a bit silly that the man is calling the woman here a liar, if he didn't provide his sources for her to examine BEFORE the interview. Not doing that just turns the whole interview into a farcical setup. The interviewer asks the woman whether she is "bothered" by accusations that he has not made an attempt to demonstrate. Thus she is being asked a "yes" or "no" question that clearly requires a longer answer. Typical dirty media trick. Steiner's basic idea for education is quite simple; human beings need an education that trains head, heart, and hands. Students need to learn crafts and handwork, gardening and art that trains their body, they need stories and images that bolster their emotions and get them excited about the possibilities of learning, they need academics that hone their minds. Without all three students, burn out on memorizing information and data and you are more likely to create cold, cynical workers who are not interested in lifelong learning. Thus Steiner opposed the idea that the teacher is just passing information into the heads of students. Human beings are more than a head. Instead Steiner had some very good ideas about how to create lifelong learners who are still curious and inquisitive about learning after leaving school. I would add I don't agree with everything he said and unfortunately I think the danger of Waldorf schools is that some people wish to think he was right about everything, which is always a problem. He actually encouraged people to question him though. Some of his ideas should be discarded. But anyone who has worked in schools, as I have, know most students hate their school and someone who had an idea that has worked to get students to love school without sacrificing rigour should not be easily dismissed.

I go to a steiner school. Dont let this form your whole judgement on this video.

And one last thing. How come, when a bad story of a Steiner school or a bad memory of being at a Steiner School is shared, it is judged for it's entirety? There are so many experiences we all share in our lives, negative and positive, and usually, in a more nuanced and educated society, we can understand that these negative or positive experiences have been influenced by a single person, organisation or community. How come, when a negative experience of one thing, can make you cast assumptions on another thing. If a child has a bad experience at a State school do we immediately believe that all state schools are bad? Every school has its own identity with the individuals concerned making it a school. We are talking about head masters, teachers, children, parents,grandparents and the wider community. If one's experiences are negative in a particular setting, they will hopefully be different in another setting. This is the same for Steiner Schools. They are all different. As different as any state school in the Uk who have to abide by the national Curriculum and interpret it in their own personal way. Every Steiner School interprets their curriculum in a slightly different way.

It is incredibly disappointing to see a report, appointed by the BBC, filled with such sarcasm and prejudice from the start. It is a sensational story that has been taken out of context. It's an easy topic to grab hold of, dig your teeth into and spit out! The subject on racism within Steiner Waldorf schools continues to be a contentious issue. So my suggestion is to initiate a survey by the BBC, ITV or Channel 4, or for that matter any Steiner critic, to conduct an investigative examination on the Steiner Waldorf pupil's view within the Uk and the world. The questions asked should be along the lines of' ' what is your understanding of the word 'racism'; what do you think and feel when you see a 'black' person, what do you think and feel when you see a 'white' person, what do you think or feel when you see a hindu person or a muslim person or anyone who looks different from you with another ethnic heritage? I can assure you that every well respected broadcasting company will think twice before they decide to broadcast this type of ill-informed, judgemental and satirical nonsense .

I went to a Steiner school up until the age of 10. Anyone who's been to a Steiner school would watch this rubbish and see how ridiculous it is. The teachers act almost like a parent to students, they are fantastic, and you develop a much closer relationship with them then you do in state schools. What I think often gets overlooked is Steiner students love going to school. I remember my first year in a state school, and i can say, there isn't nearly as much support for students, there was significantly more bullying and racism, and it felt like an alien environment. I disliked going to school after my first few weeks there (and this was the best state school in my area). This idea people seem to get that Steiner somehow encourages kids to be racist couldn't be further from the truth, its the complete opposite of what any Steiner student would tell you. Steiner encourages children to learn at their own pace and be respectful of those around you. My regret is i made the personal decisions i did and had to withdraw from Steiner at the end of class 2. I lost all enthusiasm for education, and remember disliking almost every class in secondary school, even though i came out with only A's and A*'s.

I am a teacher at the Rudolf Steiner School in Christchurch. I have had no training in Steiner Education, formally or informally prior to teaching here, and I am in my second year of teaching. I can understand why some people are skeptical, however, I can assure you that at this school, the focus is on the well-being of our students, first and foremost. When any issues of bullying come up, we deal with it using PB4L and Non-Violent Communication. Yes, the teachers try to get the students to talk and manage any issues and we facilitate this process with them. In the Upper School (secondary) the processes are the same as any other state school using class withdrawals and formal detentions. Here at the CRSS, music and art is highly valued but Anthroposophy NEVER makes its way into the curriculum. There is a great mix of Steiner Educated teachers and those of us who are not. The Philosophy and the Pedagogy is actually child centred, experiential, and helps many students flourish. ALL schools have bullying, its how they deal with it that makes all the difference. Not all schools can cater for everyone. Some students will do better at an all boys or all girls school, some students at a disciplined private school. Things change and schools can improve and get better or decline and get worse. I can honestly say that this school is trying to constantly improve, as are its teachers and this is currently reflected in its students.

I went to Catholic schools and the nuns and priests would bully students often. Kids would fight with each other in school too....how shocking! Is the BBC going to have a show about parochial schools next?

I was willing to hear your side but your channel just isn't that informative. Using a 'hachet job' BBC article to explain your issue (whatever it is) in New Zealand just isn't much of a point...

If you are within your rights, then you shall not be trespassed off the property for exercising your rights.

So how is everything going now? Can anyone tell me? We just come from China. My daughter studied in Rudolf Steiner School in China. I'd like to let her study in Rudolf Steiner school in NZ too. Thanks for any kind of reply.